Moliones's Set

[Shashomarou]

I have had Moliones's Set for a little while now and thought I might post it up.

Moliones's sickle: Dmg: 95 Dly: 501 Str+3 Set: increases acc and Enhances Souleeater effect

Moliones's ring: Str+4 Set: increases acc and Enhances Souleater effect

I have to say I love it lol low dly good dmg only drawback of the set is the Scythe is white!! Wtf lol it is the ideal scythe for those Drk's who want to try and do a haste build, but really Moliones's set is worth getting it is better than Tred scythe.

If your interested in the drop rate I went
1/4 on Sickle and 1/1 on ring.

[Mnementh]

The acc bonus on the set is only 5 acc.

It has slightly higher DOT than Perdu Sickle, but takes both items to activate the set bonus. Perdu matches the set bonus and adds 14 attk without the ring slot taken up.

It's a great scythe/ring set, but I would not quite tout it as greater than others hehe. Tred has high potential with significant crit increase and Perdu has the overall stat bonuses on lock.

[Shashomarou]

Indeed it has 5 acc and 14 att but, it also has 2-3 less base dmg and, 3 less str. Which is also the main mod for drk ws lol. In turn the "set" effect is awsome because, most drk switch out to af head +4 str or af+1 head to use souleater bonus. If you do that you also lose str for from swapping head (wyvern helm 5str or hectomb cap 11 str). So, if you don't have to swap head, thats more dmg you get out of the scythe. Souleater +1 helps a ws more than 5 str does, and if you have 5 str and +1 souleater you have even better ws. You see where I am comming from? And for my drk I lose 1 str from flame ring and I gain 2 mnd. Even though it doesn't matter too much. Mnd is a Mod for my ws, and I would vary much like to keep it from being taken away. Also as you said Mol scythe gilve 5 acc so that saves a macro swap of a sniper's ring and you get the little bit of extra att from the +7 str also. So, imo Moliones's sickle is better than Predu, and I know its better than tred (used for over a year).
Drk Powa!

[Mnementh]

Ok... so taking into account all the gear you are putting forth, lets look at raw stat bonuses. Or hell lets throw in Chaos Burgeonet +1 =P

Considering on a 4 hit WS I would want more Acc than I would want Str+ Lets look at it my way:

Perdu Scythe: attk + 14 acc +5
Chaos Burgeonet +1 Str +7 HP +12
Rajas Ring: Str+5 Dex+5 Store TP+5 Subtle Blow +5
Sniper's Ring: Acc +5

Total:

Acc: +13
Str: +12
Dex: +5
Attk: +17
HP + 12

Your way:

Molione's Sickle: +5 Acc +3 Str
Molione's Ring: +4 STR
Wyvern Helm: +5 Str, +30 HP
Rajas Ring: 5 Str 5 Dex etc...

Total:

Acc: +8
Str: +17
Dex: +5
Attk: +3
HP +30


You take a reduction of 5 total acc, and 14 attk for an increase of 5 str, 18 HP, and 2 base dmg. (The 5 str I can replace with a flame ring in my situation, if I so desired as well.)

For Guillotine, I would go with my way, without question.

For a Single hit WS, I would go your way.

The answer is, they are situational. And Tred still does not suck just based on you saying you like Molione's better =P

[Raizo]

wouldnt you have to use the same head gear no matter what to eliminate bias? regardless of what shash uses.

[Mnementh]

Not necessarily, I think the hat is a tossup. You don't need to wear the DRK hat if you have Moliones because souleater effects don't stack. The HP on wyvern helm could be considered just as good as 2 extra str for the purposes of Souleater as well. If you add it it would add 2 str and 1 attk though.

And I think i forgot to add the attk that comes from str in both builds. First build has realized +23 attk, second build has realized +12 attk. There are also a lot of other things you can do with it.

I read on the drk forums about it. The concensus seems that if acc is capped then molione's is better. Str+ doesn't mean jack if you are not landing all hits possible, this is especially true for multihit WS like Guillotine.

[Cleos]

Accuracy is usually not a big issue on a+ weapons.. Anyone that uses a snipers ring at 75 with a capped a+ weapon for WS is fail. But perdu looks cooler, so use that!

[Ikonic]

Apr 30, 2008 17:29:18 GMT -6 Cleos said:

Anyone that uses a snipers ring at 75 with a capped a+ weapon for WS is fail.

It depends on the job and WS. Certain jobs/WS give better results with sniper's even with capped ACC and merits.

[Cleos]

Well, yeah for MNK id use snipers, but asuran fists is like 8 hits? But for DRK id have to agree with shash on STR rings.

[Ikonic]

Gotcha. Just as long as that statement wasn't a universal. I know some jobs benefit a lot more from one or the other.

[Mnementh]

The greater the number of hits in your WS, the greater difference a 1% accuracy drop will make.

A War with Aggressor up on a Great Axe with Capped Merits (292 skill) and accuracy gear JUST BARELY cap accuracy on colibri with meat. (You need 407? (407 or 403) total accuracy to cap accuracy on them) Mamool and other higher evasion mobs are much worse.

At the same time capping accuracy with Sushi is a waste, because it will negatively impact your dot (2/3 of your total damage) With the loss of gratuitous amounts of attack.

[Cleos]

Well wth, thought we were talkin about versus easy prey! Nobody said what they were fighting!

[Icestorm]

All i want to add is when Shash uses souleater, he dies.

Even before landing a single hit !!!!

[Shashomarou]

Don't be Jealous because mob thinks i'm sexy. Idk why I pull so much more hate than other Drk's though. It really sucks I have Muted Soul merit...guess thats not good enough

[Ikonic]

May 23, 2008 12:41:41 GMT -6 Shashomarou said:

Don't be Jealous because mob thinks i'm sexy.

It'd have to be a mob,'cause no person ever would.