Post by Ikonic on Oct 28, 2010 16:08:00 GMT -6
This issue of the co-op agreement has been revised to show that while BalrahnWarriors members are welcome with us on events, the ls itself is no longer in this co-op and this is now a specifically CR/HA co-op.
For Abyssea:
Description:
Abyssea is now a purely merged event. CR has joined HA's Abyssea!
Times: Thursdays 8:30pm cst/9:30 est
Saturdays 5pm cst/6pm est
We will be abiding by HA's lotting system for these runs, so if you havent yet go to:
www.ha-ls.com to sign up and post your wishlist!
Also see to it you get all 8 Verdical Confluxes per zone asap if you haven't done so by this time. Faster travel = faster kills = more goodies for you all!
Leadership Duties: For these runs Ikonic will be in charge, but I have also agreed to help run the party assigned to smaller NMs as well as oversee one crew should enough attend that Ikonic decides to split the run.
However, I will be running these smaller crews based off HA rules not CR so the no meds required will still be in effect and all drops will still be sorted in accordance with Ikonic's lot list.
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The following rules will be applied to the co-op events hosted each month.
Co-Op Times:
The 2nd Tues of each month: 4pm cst/5pm est The 3rd Sun of each month: 5pm cst/6pm est
Co-Op Leadership Roles:
Ikonic: Will be in charge of job calls once all have gathered for a speedy start. He will also be in charge of guiding the crew it its target location (i.e. scout VNM pop, ZNM ???).
Vaelushyn: Will be in charge of voicing strategies before fights as well as organizing these events sitewise to ensure proper notice to all members and fairness to all. Duties include collecting strategy data, as well as making sure both lses receive a fair number of targets per run. I will be checking both sites on a regular basis to be sure threads are supplied, and lotters called on actually replied to that thread and can legitimately have targets granted.
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Co-Op Rules
On all co-op events unless specified otherwise, we will use a wishlist system. We will post up a permanent Sea/VNM/ZNM Wishlist thread asap to let you tell us 1 drop/trial nm per category you want to focus on! Once we gather for said event we will choose from those who are with us that day AND actually replied to the wishlist to determine targets from each ls for the event. Latecomer's targets may not be considered, unless late for real life reasons and their leader made aware in advance.
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About Items:
Items from wishlists will be dispensed with in a turn based fashion between the lses. This means once an ls target receives his/her wish item, the next target will be 1 of the other ls's choosing. Winners will be ask to pass all contested drops for the rest of the run to allow other ls members to receive drops as well. This of course does not apply to items on your list that only you need that may fall during the events.
High value non wishlist items (crafting mats or drops that are on neither lses wishlists) will be sold/split among those recorded in attendance the day we obtained the drop to allow fair reward to both lses for all their hard work.^^
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Co-Op Event Types:
Below is at this time currently requested co-op events and a brief description of how they will be hosted. We will stick with 1 event type until done with that type for both lses, then move on to the next event type that received the most votes! As new ideas are brought to our attention they will be posted as a polled Q, and if enough feedback is posted they will be added to this list as an option.
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For VNM/ZNM Runs:
Description:
These will be hosted on behalf of both lses, not turn based. On runs like these each ls will appoint a set number of targets per ls so that no ls receives more than the other. These will be your pop your drop style runs.
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For Sea Raid:
Description:
This is also a co-op ls hosted event, and while pop NMs at Sea are still your pop your drop, on larger fights such as Jailors CR and HA will appoint 1 member who replied to the Sea Wishlist to lot on their behalf.
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On ALL of these events leaders be sure to communicate strategy plans with each other so both of us are on the same page with each other and can pick up where one leaves off due to a needed afk, d/c or if 1 leader has to go early.
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Now that you know how we'll be working for you, here's a list of member duties to help us help you!
Reply to the wishlist threads!
Be sure to help us by replying to our threads and attending so we can get you the drops you need, because without you all there is no us!
Bring meds to Co-Op Sun/Tues Events!
I know HA doesnt require meds, and since we're merged on Abyssea I don't enforce this on you there. However, our Tues/Sun Co-Op crew is a reflection of both lses and to satisfy my LS requirements the meds listed below are manditory. If you show up minus these meds you will not be ask back to co-op events until you get the meds required. And if too many get dismissed we simply won't host these until everyone decides to take this time both lses made for you all seriously. This sounds harsh, but its only because we want to see both lses get the wins/drops they deserve and value the rl time you all set aside to help make these co-ops happen.
Required meds per co-op event:
5+ RRs (plus an FoV RR before event if you have the tabs)
12 Echo Drops
5+ Food (Good food for your job)
Not a med but be ready with your 2hr ability up for use.
Leader Duties: If any special meds beyond these are needed in other runs such as Oils/Prisms, Holy Waters etc we are to provide that info in our advertisements of the events so those who show will be prepared. Keep an eye also on any you see not bringing the needed meds, and deal with them in accordance with your own lses personal punishment style.
For VNMs:
Be ready with at least a non Abyssea Colorful Abyssite key item ready per run. T1 pops are really not that hard to solo or duo/trio with friends and would allow us to work toward the higher tiers faster.
For ZNMs:
There will be no Co-Op Zeni farms in preparation for actual Co-Op ZNMs so if you want the drop get the pop! Again Zeni can easily be done solo or with a friend or 2 so get points stored up for these events.
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While I realize this might sound like alot on your end too, please understand that considering this only happens 2 (not counting abyssea) days per month its really not much to ask. Know also we're doing just as much on our end and only wish to see our lses succeed in getting things they want and having fun while doing it! Let's all hope for many successful future gatherings!
Sincerely,
Vaelushyn/Ikonic
Edit: Updated rules since BW is no longer an official part of the joint events. 1/31/11
For Abyssea:
Description:
Abyssea is now a purely merged event. CR has joined HA's Abyssea!
Times: Thursdays 8:30pm cst/9:30 est
Saturdays 5pm cst/6pm est
We will be abiding by HA's lotting system for these runs, so if you havent yet go to:
www.ha-ls.com to sign up and post your wishlist!
Also see to it you get all 8 Verdical Confluxes per zone asap if you haven't done so by this time. Faster travel = faster kills = more goodies for you all!
Leadership Duties: For these runs Ikonic will be in charge, but I have also agreed to help run the party assigned to smaller NMs as well as oversee one crew should enough attend that Ikonic decides to split the run.
However, I will be running these smaller crews based off HA rules not CR so the no meds required will still be in effect and all drops will still be sorted in accordance with Ikonic's lot list.
-------------
The following rules will be applied to the co-op events hosted each month.
Co-Op Times:
The 2nd Tues of each month: 4pm cst/5pm est The 3rd Sun of each month: 5pm cst/6pm est
Co-Op Leadership Roles:
Ikonic: Will be in charge of job calls once all have gathered for a speedy start. He will also be in charge of guiding the crew it its target location (i.e. scout VNM pop, ZNM ???).
Vaelushyn: Will be in charge of voicing strategies before fights as well as organizing these events sitewise to ensure proper notice to all members and fairness to all. Duties include collecting strategy data, as well as making sure both lses receive a fair number of targets per run. I will be checking both sites on a regular basis to be sure threads are supplied, and lotters called on actually replied to that thread and can legitimately have targets granted.
---------
Co-Op Rules
On all co-op events unless specified otherwise, we will use a wishlist system. We will post up a permanent Sea/VNM/ZNM Wishlist thread asap to let you tell us 1 drop/trial nm per category you want to focus on! Once we gather for said event we will choose from those who are with us that day AND actually replied to the wishlist to determine targets from each ls for the event. Latecomer's targets may not be considered, unless late for real life reasons and their leader made aware in advance.
-----------
About Items:
Items from wishlists will be dispensed with in a turn based fashion between the lses. This means once an ls target receives his/her wish item, the next target will be 1 of the other ls's choosing. Winners will be ask to pass all contested drops for the rest of the run to allow other ls members to receive drops as well. This of course does not apply to items on your list that only you need that may fall during the events.
High value non wishlist items (crafting mats or drops that are on neither lses wishlists) will be sold/split among those recorded in attendance the day we obtained the drop to allow fair reward to both lses for all their hard work.^^
----------
Co-Op Event Types:
Below is at this time currently requested co-op events and a brief description of how they will be hosted. We will stick with 1 event type until done with that type for both lses, then move on to the next event type that received the most votes! As new ideas are brought to our attention they will be posted as a polled Q, and if enough feedback is posted they will be added to this list as an option.
----------
For VNM/ZNM Runs:
Description:
These will be hosted on behalf of both lses, not turn based. On runs like these each ls will appoint a set number of targets per ls so that no ls receives more than the other. These will be your pop your drop style runs.
------------
For Sea Raid:
Description:
This is also a co-op ls hosted event, and while pop NMs at Sea are still your pop your drop, on larger fights such as Jailors CR and HA will appoint 1 member who replied to the Sea Wishlist to lot on their behalf.
------------
On ALL of these events leaders be sure to communicate strategy plans with each other so both of us are on the same page with each other and can pick up where one leaves off due to a needed afk, d/c or if 1 leader has to go early.
-----------
Now that you know how we'll be working for you, here's a list of member duties to help us help you!
Reply to the wishlist threads!
Be sure to help us by replying to our threads and attending so we can get you the drops you need, because without you all there is no us!
Bring meds to Co-Op Sun/Tues Events!
I know HA doesnt require meds, and since we're merged on Abyssea I don't enforce this on you there. However, our Tues/Sun Co-Op crew is a reflection of both lses and to satisfy my LS requirements the meds listed below are manditory. If you show up minus these meds you will not be ask back to co-op events until you get the meds required. And if too many get dismissed we simply won't host these until everyone decides to take this time both lses made for you all seriously. This sounds harsh, but its only because we want to see both lses get the wins/drops they deserve and value the rl time you all set aside to help make these co-ops happen.
Required meds per co-op event:
5+ RRs (plus an FoV RR before event if you have the tabs)
12 Echo Drops
5+ Food (Good food for your job)
Not a med but be ready with your 2hr ability up for use.
Leader Duties: If any special meds beyond these are needed in other runs such as Oils/Prisms, Holy Waters etc we are to provide that info in our advertisements of the events so those who show will be prepared. Keep an eye also on any you see not bringing the needed meds, and deal with them in accordance with your own lses personal punishment style.
For VNMs:
Be ready with at least a non Abyssea Colorful Abyssite key item ready per run. T1 pops are really not that hard to solo or duo/trio with friends and would allow us to work toward the higher tiers faster.
For ZNMs:
There will be no Co-Op Zeni farms in preparation for actual Co-Op ZNMs so if you want the drop get the pop! Again Zeni can easily be done solo or with a friend or 2 so get points stored up for these events.
------------
While I realize this might sound like alot on your end too, please understand that considering this only happens 2 (not counting abyssea) days per month its really not much to ask. Know also we're doing just as much on our end and only wish to see our lses succeed in getting things they want and having fun while doing it! Let's all hope for many successful future gatherings!
Sincerely,
Vaelushyn/Ikonic
Edit: Updated rules since BW is no longer an official part of the joint events. 1/31/11
